Random Rant #2
Tres Chase
I’ve noticed that every time I voice my displeasure with the mainstream industry for supporting and promoting a less than flattering image of black porn models, the standard response from some within the industry is deflection. Instead of offering an explanation as to why (for the most part) black men are typically showcased as overly aggressive sexually savage tops, the go-to defense is to point at thug porn and the unflattering gangsta imagery of blacks in that genre. They say this as a way of implying that we can’t have it both ways, we (I’m guessing they mean blacks and anyone else who rightfully calls out this shameful tradition) can’t support the thug imagery while condemning the mandingo warrior shit. I’m constantly making these people aware that I and a lot of black men I know, are dissatisfied with BOTH genres for choosing to use generic unflattering stereotypes as creative inspiration for black roles and more important than the fucked up image, is the fact that ethic models as a whole (not just blacks and Latins are under represented in gay porn. That has ALWAYS been my larger point. Like I said before, it’s a deflection, not a defense. I absolutely take issue with the ghetto personae of thug porn. In my eyes there’s little difference between the two genres, both are mostly run by white men (very few thug porn studios are minority owned) and both shy away from showing black men in sensual, romantic, non demeaning ways. The only difference is that thug porn is about black on black sex, while the mainstream material is almost always (several) blacks on white.
angel Cruz
I’m gonna admit I had an epiphany the other day. I realized it wasn’t just about blacl models being represented . There are .any that are. But what the true issue is tthe fact we aren’t represented in the same spectrum. Many thug models are restricted to that genre not because they want to. Because they are ostrcized and treat like pyra of gay porn. Until the day comes a studio chooses to represent us in the lrger spectrum . Its never gonna change your 100% right . I am all about all types of porn and all kinds of genres… But until everyone is represented everywhere porn will remain stagnant.
Oct 07, 2010 @ 6:44 PM
Lotta Roti
You are my kind of political activist, Chase
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As a white female porn consumer from a country where there are very few black people, the things you say about porn and its imagery of black people are blatantly obvious.
I think you and we who would like to see a change need to make noise until the change materializes. I’m all for the Mandigo and ghetto fucker porn *existing* – to each their own. But now it is what defines the black man’s sexuality in porn imagery, and I don’t like it.
Oct 07, 2010 @ 6:46 PM
Devon Hunter
I have an idea for you to consider… How can you avoid all this entirely and work OUTSIDE the system that ignores/exploits/fetishizes you? Would it be possible for models of color to pool resources to share the costs/profits, produce and distribute the videos, and create the material you’re describing?? I think that would be the ultimate show of strength: We don’t need your system. We have made our own. Is it doable??
Oct 07, 2010 @ 6:53 PM
Justin
Please don’t say you want to be as boring as everyone else.
“overly aggressive sexually savage tops”
You know, back in the Golden Age of Gay Porn (before internet killed the radio star and when studios like Falcon were making money hand over fist) that’s how they marketed a Chad Douglas, OG Johnson (black) and some of their other most hung popular tops. You say it like it’s a bad thing. Listen buddy, we’re on the other side of the industry, you know – the consumer. “Overly aggressive sexually savage top” is not a bad thing. You should wear it on a t-shirt.
Oct 07, 2010 @ 7:22 PM
Chase Coxxx
Devon) I am not one to just sit and complain, I believe that change will only come if I get off my ass and do something about it. I am looking for financial backers to help me start a company. The problem is that most people who want to invest in a black owned porn company want to stick to producing the status quo instead of taking a leap of faith. I’m still waiting for someone who is interested in making quality movies with great models of all ethnicities to back me. (Perhaps I should have thought of this before divorcing my millionaire ex husband… Just a thought… LOL…) I don’t want a black porn studio, I want a porn studio, all inclusive.
Oct 07, 2010 @ 8:06 PM
Chase Coxxx
Angel) I agree that it is not just about black and whites. It’s about all ethnic models. The only time I focus on blacks is when it’s an issue specific to blacks. When speaking in general terms about the industry and race, I try to be inclusive of other races.
Oct 07, 2010 @ 8:06 PM
Chase Coxxx
Lotti) I wouldn’t complain about the thug porn or the mandingo shit if there was enough material out there that showcased us in more flattering ways. It’s the lack of balance that irritates me. I also feel like gay people should be able to understand this as we often complain about the media portraying our entire lot as preening, prancing, princesses while largely ignoring the many other types of gays that exist.
Oct 07, 2010 @ 8:07 PM
Chase Coxxx
Justin)
Yes, you’re all too comfortable seeing black men in that hypersexual role. The difference with the white models who play power tops, is that they have opportunities to showcase themselves in other ways. For the most part, black men do not. It’s singular for us, thug and or mandingo fucker or nothing at all.
People also like Jersey Shore even though it displays Italian Americans in a very unflattering way. Should the Italians who are upset with this portrayal shut their mouths because there’s an appetite for the garbage that show puts on the air each week? Because you like it doesn’t mean that I have to remain silent about it and I’m damn sure NOT going to run around feeling accomplished because you want to reward me for playing an unflattering caricature of my people…. I think you might be better suited to post on Douche Bag Washingturd’s blog…. With that said, thank you for reading and leaving a comment.
Oct 07, 2010 @ 8:09 PM
Justin
Sorry I upset you, and I can’t stand Diesel Washington. I went to the site where I believe you do a majority of your work and had to laugh at the detailed descriptions they chose for your scenes. I guess “13-inch stomach stabber” must be more acceptable than “overly aggressive sexually savage top” as your white bottom “screams for mercy”. Would you still work with them again? If you’re consistent, I would assume you are highly offended by their write up.
Oct 07, 2010 @ 8:19 PM
Tré Xavier
Chase,
This post is very well put together.
The problem I have come across in addressing this matter has been the Whites and lighter complexioned models telling me in blog comment and/or to my face how I’ve hit the nail on the head, YET insist on working for the very studios who propagate either that big, Black brute image, OR don’t use medium to dark-complexioned models at all. I mean how dare you tell me I’m justified in my annoyance yet work for a company like Falcon, Raging Stallion, Hot House, Lucas Entertainment, etc. that uses Blacks either sporadically(and in the “brute” image), or not at all? It makes that person A HYPOCRITE.
It came to the point that I couldn’t trust White and lighter-complexioned actors in the gay porn industry, and I still don’t. Because action speaks louder than words, and their actions said nothing to inspire the change their words were suggesting. Which is sad, because I shouldn’t have a rainbow of friends OUTSIDE the industry as I do, but not a rainbow within.
I hate giving blog length comments, but I must also say that I at one time was approached by FlavaWorks to start my own video line. And there was a matter that made that deal fall apart that I addressed on my blog, but I’m sure what you mentioned what have made it fall apart regardless. Because in one of my conversations with Phil, I mentioned how I wanted multi-ethnic casting for my fantasy of being a bottom in an international gangbang. He twisted the words around to say, “Sure, we can have a guy that’s Black mixed with Asian, Black mixed with Indian…”
That is NOT AT ALL WHAT I MEANT, and I’m sure you and I both know that. Because how is that INTERNATIONAL? I wanted to be banged by a 100% Black, 100% Asian, 100% Indian, etc. So like you said in your comment, either I would have had a fight on my hands or Phil would have just made another Black video line. Whoopie! How fuckin’ original?!
Sorry for the long vent. Thanks for writing this post.
Oct 07, 2010 @ 8:23 PM
Wil
Yes, the gangsta/thug stereotypes make me cringe. This is coming from a white kid, so I cannot relate to the exact emotions you go through, but I think I come close when I see these “thugs” i nthese videos fucking and slapping around these pussy-bitch white gay stereotypes. Am I really supposed to relate to those portrayals? As much as I like to bottom, I’m not thinking, “Oh my god, I’m SO totally being an inferior, sub-human bitch to this big, black daddy thug!” when I have an interracial sex encounter. But back to your topic… so I was looking at an issue of Flavamen, and after I was done jerking off to all the photos, I read the interviews they had with those guys. My thoughts – “Okay, why the fuck do they all sound the same? This is dumb.” They ALL had that dumbass so-called “gangsta” talk to them! It’s like, “Uh, excuse me, I’ve lived on this plent for quite a long time, and if you’re gonna tell me that every single black person talks like THIS… fuck you.”
Why can’t they just show sexy PEOPLE in porn? Piss on the stereotypes of what black and white (and other pigments of) gay men are perceived as being. Like as if we need to “confirm” stereotypes!
Oct 07, 2010 @ 8:29 PM
Chase Coxxx
Jason) I’m not “highly offended” by the write up as it doesn’t showcase me as a thug or a white man’s sex object. I think it’s a silly synopsis, but not offensive. I know the studio owner well and his intent wasn’t to portray me as a thug or a guy who’s only reason for existence is to fulfill some played out jungle fucker fantasy. At Slut Machine Studios I am treated as porn model who’s black and not a black porn model. Slut Machine Studios has paired me with blacks, whites and Latinos, they have never asked me to thug it up, so yes, I will work with them again in the future.
Surely you aren’t comparing an exaggerated description of my dick and the accurate description of the screaming bottom to a bound and gagged Douche Bag Washingturd standing next to his white master under a graphic banner that says “Change is Coming” (mind you this was around the same time that President Obama was waiting to take his seat in the Oval Office), because that’s the kind of shit that offends me.
This is a healthy dialog, thanks for your input.
Oct 07, 2010 @ 9:34 PM